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The AH Never Changes

And why does it not change? How does it stay the same no matter what game your playing? Because at it’s core what drive the AH to function are people and we never change. The lazy people on wow are going to be lazy on Rift, the morons will stay morons, and the goblins will stay goblins. This means that everything I have learned from the AH game on wow will apply to rift and vice versa along with every game that will ever come out with a similar economic structure. The only changes are how you shuffle around names and numbers. Every situation I found myself in wow I’ll find once again in rift and the same methods will need to be applied to work with it.

Hell I’ve even ran off my first camper.

Supply rates are still tied to the amount of people farming them which translates into how many people are questing in a certain level range. Because of that you can predict when a supply flood will be coming based on what is flooded now. Granted we all level at a different rate, but for the most part it’s the same few levels a day. When an economy is driven almost entirely by raw materials this is a very important piece of information to have. Knowing when a flood is coming you can also predict when a relative shortage is coming as well, that means flipping.

If level 30 leather is down to 3 silver each with 100 stacks up, you are almost guaranteed that it’ll be up to 50 silver in a week or so. By reacting accordingly and investing in it you can resell it later for a huge profit margin or skill up your professions insanely cheap. I did this with my RC which is why I only spent maybe 10 plat total to level it up. I RB’d all of the greens I got from questing and bought up all of the burlap gear once it got flooded again and waited for all of the linen gear to go down in price next.

Remember me going on and on about how deep undercuts are the way to go to make the big time and scare off competition? Well that’s even more true in Rift since it’s still so new. When you’re desperate for money like everyone else, you might lean towards undercutting by only a few silver instead of a few gold. You know your materials will sell at some point so you don’t go that low.

This is a good call just like it was in wow (as with anything that has a high sales rate) but does not apply to any crafted goods that are in demand. Things like runes get flooded now and again when people are skilling it up, but once they’re all gone there will still be a few people trying to make money from that profession. So far I am the only one that is a regular seller and undercuts by gold and not silver.

That’s why several people that used to sell things daily don’t anymore, some “moron” (hint: it’s me) is just ruining the prices when they’re so high!

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Stokpile of The AH Pile is a Staff Writer here at Warcraft Econ as well as a respected member of the gold making community. He has been in the Hall of Fame four times and is very experienced with economic theory in MMO's. Stokpile uses the auction house and every profession in game to craft and sell things while using basic methods and auction house theory to make huge profits. All of these methods and theories have been proven to work and will continue to work because they're not based on the game, but instead on the people that play the game.
  • http://www.warcraftecon.net Oligopoly

    Understanding the auction house in any given economy is what separates the experts and the player that claims to know what they are doing, but really don't. Although some readers may not play WoW or Rift, these concepts can translate into any MMO. For those interested in Star Wars: The Old Republic, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, and other upcoming MMO's, pay attention to these "big picture" economic posts. They will help you in your next game!

  • skine

    how in the world did you manage to run off a camper? auction house pvp makes me want to stomp kittens.

  • Drakkmur

    The technique I use to run off campers is post auctions at like a 5g profit and post two of them. They have two choices: 1) buy out a SHIT TON of my gems or 2) undercut me.

    In scenario one, I make a ton of gold with no effort. I also now know they will buy all my gems at those prices so I re-post…for 3g more each. If they buy out those gems, I repeat the process until they decide to undercut me. Then I re-undercut them at the highest price they chose to buy my gems and make them decide to buy out my gems all over again or

    They undercut me. In this case, I can log off and rest easy knowing I literally sucked thousands of gold profit out of the AH because I cratered the price of gems from say a 75g profit per gem to more or less breaking even on each gem. I promise you, if you have the tenacity to keep that up for 10-14 days, the camper will give up camp when they realize they just spent 8 hours camping the AH and realize they would have made more profit by farming because you fucked over the economy.

    Once they stop camping, set the price of gems back to normal.